- Well, Kaylub, thank you so much for being here.

I really appreciate it.

(no audio) Could you just tell me a little bit about yourself?

Where did you grow up and how did you grow up?

- Yeah, I was born in Placerville, California.

I was four when we moved up here.

I celebrated my first birthday down in Sun River.

And Bend has been my home for 31 years.

I went to Bend High School.

I was the first fifth grade class to attend High Lakes Elementary.

And I remember that time.

That was a lot of fun.

That's when I picked up skateboarding as a hobby.

And as a young child, I did spend a lot of time with my grandfather in the Ochoco Mountains.

And yeah, decided that this was gonna be the place that I get married and raise a family.

It's a very, very special place to me.

I was an environmental geographer is what I studied in college, and through that, I learned that the geographics of this place are very special.

We always have natural resources, fresh water.

And so yeah, it holds a very special place in my heart.

- What was your childhood like?

- So I am the oldest of seven.

It was chaotic.

You know, we did not grow up wealthy, but my mother did everything she could to raise seven children, mostly on her own.

My father left the family at a young age by his own decision.

And so when he had left, I was 15 years old, and that was obviously, you know, very traumatic.

That was probably our first traumatic situation with our family.

And after that, my siblings looked up to me as a father figure.

And I was young at the time, you know?

I wasn't a father.

But from then on, everybody had always told me, "You have to be the role model.

These kids are looking up to you.

You lead by example.

They watch everything you do."

And so I took that very serious, and it made me grow up really fast, but it also kind of started shaping the heart that I have for people, and just the caring, like, the nurturing qualities that I have, just by the need for my family to... They had needs for me, and I felt like I wanted to meet those needs.

- And now you have your own family.

You have two girls, right?

- Two girls.

My oldest is 10 years old and my youngest is five.

She will be six in December.

And they are my light and world along with my beautiful wife.

And yeah, I chose Bend to raise.

I thought that this was the safest place to raise my children, yeah.

- And you're 36 now?

- I'm 36.

Sometimes I say 35 because I forget, but I'm 36.

- And what do you do for a living?

- I've been a carpenter in the Bend, Oregon area for 18 years.

Right after I got out of college, I had a family friend who they called the Wood Whisperer, he's just a wizard with woodworking, and his son didn't want to take on his career, and so he asked me if I would like to do that, and I did.

I said, "Yeah, I think that would be really cool."

And so I started out doing finished carpentry and worked with him as an apprenticeship for three years.

And then I moved on to another company, and it's kicked off my career in carpentry.

And since then, throughout the years, I've just picked up all the different trades to the point where I can build a house from the ground up by myself, which is... It's reassuring, it's really cool, but also, I've used those skills, you know?

That's how I've helped my family and my friends in times of need, you know?

So yeah, I don't know if I'll be a carpenter from here on out, but that's been my life.

- How do you think your friends and family describe you?

How do they think of you?

- I mean, I would hope they would describe me as a giver, a lover, a funny, spunky, just sci-fi nerd.

I like to hoot and holler when I'm having a good time, so I know that when they hear me hoot and holler, it makes them smile, but that lets them know that I'm happy.

But I'm just a big weirdo, (laughs) really.

I'm very goofy, very child oriented.

Yeah, I'm a caregiver.

I'd say that they'd probably describe me that way.

- What kinds of things do you like to do with your girls?

- I like to ride bikes with them a lot.

I like to also- - Motorbikes?

- So, my oldest has a four wheeler, and we do, she really enjoys riding that with me, and I really do enjoy riding that with her.

My youngest can't stay off of my dirt bike.

When I'm on it, she just asks for rides nonstop.

But no, I do like to ride bicycles with them.

My daughter's, she's growing so fast, the oldest one, her bike is actually bigger than mine, which is silly.

But biking.

Recently, I've really been enjoying my time in the pool with them.

We've been playing Sharky and Marco Polo, which has just been awesome.

So I'd say probably biking and swimming at this point right now is probably my favorite.

- And now I'm going to start kind of guiding us towards what happened last week, if that's all right with you.

- That's all right with me.

- I mean, first I wanted to understand how you learned to use a firearm and kind of what your relationship is with owning a gun.

- Yeah, so, growing up in the Ochoco Mountains with my grandfather, he taught me how to hunt from a young age.

You know, he was older, but he was adamant about me growing up the old school way, the way that he did.

And so he purchased my first breakdown 410 shotgun at seven years old and we started bird hunting.

And shortly after that, he became the Ochoco chapter president of the Oregon Hunters Association, and with the time that I had spent with him, after I received my hunter's education and my hunter's license, I went on to mentor the next kids coming through.

My grandfather and I taught hunters education and survival class, where we taught people how to use bow and arrows and carbine weapons, how to build fires, how to survive if you're trapped out in the woods.

And after that, you know, I hunted for a while.

I stopped hunting probably at 18 years old.

I took a long break from that.

And now I have guns, and I didn't start buying guns until I built a restaurant for a man in Redmond who served under the Mexican military and the American military.

He was highly decorated, he's had multiple tours in Iraq, and he is an amazing gentleman.

He wanted to build a restaurant, and so we built a restaurant.

And through that time, his platoon would come out to Bend, and I built targets and walls for them, and I got to meet the whole platoon, and we've done this on many occasions.

They're very great people.

And they offered to train me militarily with warmup drills and reload drills and how to stay on a target while moving, various just different drills throughout the times that we had met.

I had the privilege to shoot some guns that most people won't see in their lives, pre-World War II M1 Garands, which is really, really neat.

But on top of that, you know, just the general training that they had offered, I felt like it was meant to be.

I felt like if I didn't have that training, I probably wouldn't be alive today to be here to sit with you.

- You had a gun in your truck when this was happening.

Can you tell me more about that firearm, why it was in that place at that time and why you had it?

- Yeah, it was probably there collecting dust, 'cause again, I don't talk about my guns.

My friends don't know I have guns.

My daughters don't know I have guns.

It was magazine out.

My magazine was in a separate console that I have in my truck, and then my firearm was in my center console, sitting there.

And so typically, to carry open in your vehicle, you have to have them separate to where they're not readily accessible, which was a little scary and took a little extra time to make sure that I... At first when I opened it, I was just hoping it was gonna be there, just 'cause, you know, I'm not a gun nut and I don't go shoot all the time, and so my heart dropped when I opened up my center console, just 'cause I wasn't sure if it was gonna be in there, and I was lucky that it was.

I was very fortunate.

- Okay, now I'd like to sort of go through last Thursday.

We're talking now, it's been the first full week since October 15th.

How did your day begin?

- I woke up, I got my kids ready for school just like any other Thursday.

You know, we got up, we got dressed, we got them some breakfast, we packed their lunch.

It was picture day, so we got them all pretty and ready to go for pictures.

I drove them to school that morning, and then I went off to work.

I had a client out in Pronghorn, and I was just out there just doing some odd work for her.

And I had my lunch in the truck, but I had to run into town to match some stone and two bolts that I had to have for the job.

And so I called my wife right as I was about to leave Pronghorn and I said, "Hey, sweetie, we had those tacos last night.

Those were really yummy.

Do you mind reheating some of those tacos?

I'm gonna go ahead and stop home instead."

And she said, "Okay," and I said, "I'll be home in approximately 25 minutes."

And so I started heading home, and on the way in, I contemplated stopping by Mutual Materials.

It was on the way to my house, and that's where they sell the stone work.

I was gonna go get it matched just so I could kind of be ahead of the game, and I decided not to.

I almost went to Wilco to pick up some longer bolts that I had needed.

And again, I just decided not to.

And so I headed home.

And as I turned onto Brentwood, I was approximately 100 yards behind a red Toyota pickup truck, and I had seen a man in black and I had seen a rifle.

And at this point, I thought it was like maybe a prank or a joke and maybe a BB gun or something, and then I saw him fire two times towards the Toyota pickup truck and then one time into the field where there was a lawnmower there, and that lady was mowing, taking care of the landscaping.

As soon as he fired the shot towards the lawnmower, I feel like she thought maybe it was a backfire, and I am very hyper attentive, and so she kind of just started heading towards the west to maybe go load up her lawnmower.

And so I had seen the red truck continue on, and at this point, the gunman had thrown his rifle up and over the fence, and that's when panic fled into my brain and I was just... That's when I opened my center console and I just said, "No, no, no, no, no."

And I grabbed my gun and I put the magazine in it, and I racked the action, and then I proceeded into the parking lot, and I saw him walking all the way across the school and I just was in full panic, like, "No, there's children, there's babies in there."

And I told my Siri to call 911, and the dispatch had picked up, and I was, you know, reporting the incident, but she was asking questions that they frustrated me, and I understand there's protocol, but she was asking me, do I know the person, all these things, and I said, "I'm sorry, I have to go in.

People are going to die."

And I hopped over the fence, and as he was passing on the other side of the wallball court, I ran to the wallball court so that he couldn't see me.

And so I strafed along the wallball court.

And then at this time, he reached the double doors, and I heard him fire two shots into the doors.

And as he was firing those two shots, I ran from the wallball court to the building and got prone.

And then I started going along the windows, and that's when I started hearing children pleading for their lives, and then I started hearing gunfire.

And I just started army crawling faster and faster, and I told myself, "This is probably the last thing that I'm ever gonna do."

And I just crawled faster and faster and I went prone around a recycle bin that was sitting there into the corridor where the doors were, and that's when I crawled through the bottom window that was shot out, and continued onto the rug inside where there's a little breezeway with stairs, and then the special needs classroom was to my left.

At that point, I was on the ground, on my hands and knees.

I re-racked my weapon to make sure that a live round came out so that I knew that I was ready to go.

And then I peeked through the window.

And at this point, I found my opportunity and I seen a teacher on the left struggling with the gunman on the right with the rifle, and I knew that they were both side to me and I knew that he did not know that I was there, and so at that point, I swung the door out and open, and I stepped in and I fired, and they dropped to the ground, and the teacher sprang out of the building, thinking that I was a second shooter, and I could see the fear in her eyes, and that did hurt a lot, but I could see the fear in her eyes.

She left the room, and this happens in seconds.

And then I looked down at the gunman and he was scrambling for his weapon, and I looked at him and I shot him two more times to make sure that he couldn't move because I was afraid of him shooting anybody else.

At that time, I knew that the police... You know, sirens were going off everywhere.

I knew that the police were just about to be there.

I exited the man door that goes out to the playground, and I looked left because I knew the teacher had went left, and I wanted to make sure that she was okay.

I flipped my gun around to where I was holding it by the barrel, because I did not want to be perceived as a threat to lose my own life from the police.

I walked out, I tried to check on her, and she was still terrified and didn't know who I was.

And so I put my gun on the ground and I told her I got the gunman, it's okay, and she proceeded around the building.

And at that time, I turned around, and that's when the first officer was coming on the scene, fully geared up with his AR out and his bulletproof vest and the whole works.

And when the gun was on the ground, I had my hands up and I said, "We need your help over here right now.

Please, please, please."

And he came over, he acknowledged me.

And then I picked my gun back up and I said, "Can I go call my wife please?"

And at this point, there was a police vehicle driving through the fence to make sure that the rest of the crew, 'cause all of the locks were locked, you know, as they should be, you know, all the gates.

Granted, the gunman jumped right over the fence.

So at this point, I proceed to my truck, I unload my weapon all the way, I put it down in my floorboard, and I call my wife to tell her that I'm not coming home for tacos and that I need her to get to the store or to the school immediately, that I had just had to shoot and kill somebody and that I had to watch him take the lives of children and teachers.

And so then at this point, I've never seen so many police in my life, or first responders, which was absolutely amazing.

The time that they got there was unprecedented.

It was not fast enough.

I personally don't feel that I was fast enough because I had to hear those babies perish, and I had to forever live with that.

Hearing a child plead for their life is not something that I feel anybody should ever have to witness.

And that's just all I could do, is crawl faster and just try and get in that room as fast as I could without my own life being taken.

And so with the police presence coming in, you know, I finally was reunited with my wife, and she was completely panic stricken.

I mean, hands down, easily the scariest day in our entire life.

My children were somewhere in that building.

I could not go in.

I exited the building 'cause I did not want to be in there.

And then I called my mom and I told her, I called her and I was like, "Mom, I just had to take the life of what I think might be a child because he went into my daughter's school with a gun."

And she was just like, "Okay, baby, calm down.

You did the right thing.

You're a hero, you saved lives."

And then I just kind of broke down at that point and I was just like, you know, "I didn't save everybody.

I didn't get them all."

And I kind of just broke at that point.

And my mom, at that point, my wife was calling my mom, and so she said, "Hey, hang tight.

I'm gonna speak with your wife."

And I had designated officers around me, which was, you know, they comforted me.

They were there to make sure that I was okay.

I felt like I was having a heart attack almost the entire time.

I've never had so much chest pain.

I mean, I can't tell you what it feels like to take a life.

It's really not... That's not how I thought that my Thursday was gonna go.

But I can tell you that I genuinely feel like I was supposed to be there, and if I wasn't there, I just don't know what would have happened.

And also, if I was there and if I waited for the police, I just don't know, again, how bad this would have been.

And there was a higher function in me that was telling me to just go in, and I didn't second guess.

And I said sorry to the lady that was on the dispatch, and I said, "I'm sorry, I have to go in."

And I made my choice at that point.

- Did it even occur to you, like, "The police might shoot me?"

- Absolutely.

When I was exiting that building, again, that's why I turned my weapon around and I went out and I put my gun on the ground as he was approaching, and I wanted to make sure that we need help over here.

"I am a good guy," and I told him, "I got him, he's in here, please come right now.

There's people hurt."

And yeah, I thought that I could possibly have gotten shot and killed by a police officer, just 'cause they don't know how many shooters are in there.

And they asked me if there's any more shooters.

And of course, I witnessed one shooter go in, so I knew there was one shooter, but that doesn't mean that my knowledge is concrete evidence.

So they have their protocols.

And my God, I did not think that I was going to go home that night one way or another, whether I was shot by a gunman or shot by a police officer, because they have a job to do, and guns aren't allowed on school property.

My higher sense ignored that.

I didn't see a sign.

We came in on a side of the building, there was no signs on that area, you know?

But at the end of the day, I don't think that I would have acknowledged that sign, because so many more little innocent children would have lost their lives had I done that.

- I can imagine you're replaying this over and over in your mind, and I'm wondering, which moments are you struggling the most with?

And all of them are horrible.

I don't mean to minimize the whole story.

- They're all horrible.

Where I struggle the most is when my family's sleeping and all my friends, everybody's sleeping, and lay their head down to rest for the night.

And I can't quite do that, because when I do, yeah, I relive.

I see faces, I hear voices, I hear screams.

My actions, I replay how I could have done things differently to save more lives.

Part of me wishes that I would have just ran him over.

But the easiest times for me are when I'm surrounded by my family.

I ride motocross, I'm a very avid motocross fan.

And I'm the oldest of seven children.

Five of my siblings are all boys.

We all ride dirt bikes.

And that has been the only piece of serenity that I've had.

And it's temporary because it's just a distraction until nighttime comes, and I have to relive this situation over and over again.

- Before we move on to now, is there anything else you wanted to share about what happened in the school that day and- - There is, yeah.

I mean, the teacher that was wrestling with the gun, with the gunman, I want to recognize her.

She gave me the opportunity to make my shot without losing my life.

I saw a clear shot to where I did not have to take her life.

Without her and that little spur of the moment delay, I very much feel like I would have been facing the shooter head on and we could have both died, or I could have died, and I felt like I was the last line of defense between me and the rest of the children in the school.

So, I don't know her name.

I would love to know her name.

I would love to give her a hug, because that's a real true hero, to not have a weapon and to put yourself in between your babies and a firearm.

- How did you reunite with your own daughters that day that they were at the school too?

- Yes, so, you know, as being the person who stopped the shooter, I had to go down to the police station.

So I didn't get reunited with them for a while.

The police made sure that they didn't take me down for processing until I heard from my wife that my babies were safe and they were in her arms.

So, there was a reunification process that Journey Church had put on, and I have a lot of praise for them because nobody's gone through this before.

They didn't know what to expect, how to deal with things.

And they did a really good job getting all the children back to their loved ones.

But I did not get to see my children that day until quite a bit later.

I had to go down to the police station and immediately relive the events before I could go see my children.

- And when you were reunited and in the days that followed, how have you talked with them about what happened?

- You know, it's been hard.

My five year old, you know, five-year-olds are resilient in the manner that they don't fully understand what's going on, but my five-year-old just, probably 100 times a day, comes up to me and just hugs me and says, "I love you, Daddy."

And I hug her, I pick her up and squeeze her as hard as I can, I say, "I love you too, you're my world."

My 10-year-old is very intellectual, she's very intelligent, and she does know what's going on.

She has just the biggest heart in the world, and I can tell, I can see it in her eyes, she's more docile, and I just remind her that I love her so, so much and that I will always be here to protect her no matter what.

And she's my light, and that someday I hope that she can be a role model and she can help other children through hard times like this, being somebody who has witnessed something so horrendous.

We don't always have the words to say to our children to comfort them or to guide them further, but instinctually as parents, I feel like that does come somewhat naturally.

That's our job as parents, to be here for children, to spend time with them, to show them our love and compassion, and so that they know that they have people in this world standing behind them.

They know that they have that love.

They know that people are gonna try and... They have a future.

Children in this country deserve to be safe.

And yeah, I don't always know how to talk to my children.

And every day is something new.

Every day, I get a little more courage.

Every day, the words come in to play.

And yeah, I feel like there's no guidebook for anything like this.

You would never think that this would happen.

I literally told my wife within the last two weeks before this had happened that there's no way.

"We're at Silver Rail, this is a good school.

This wouldn't happen here."

Because she wanted to pull our kids out and homeschool and look for a different way to educate our kids at that point.

- Before the shooting.

- Before the shooting.

And I was the one that was thinking that I was the voice of reason, saying, "We live in Bend, Oregon.

We have this awesome community, this won't happen here."

But, you know, sometimes there's a child out there that didn't have the love that they deserved.

And there's a part of me that thinks that that 16-year-old could have maybe made different choices in life had he had more love and a parent that was there and nurturing, and that's just what I'm gonna do, trying to move forward with my children, is make sure that they know that they're loved.

- Do you think they'll ever go back to schools here?

- I think that there needs to be a major reform in school security, and I want to be a driving light in that movement.

I don't think my kids will go back to school for quite some time.

That's gonna be really hard, a hard decision to make, even though, again, we felt like we had a safe school.

I still feel like it's safe.

It's a scary time when you don't know what everybody's going through, how their childhood came up, what drove them to make these awful decisions.

- We don't have to stay here if it doesn't feel right to you, but you did mention the 16-year-old shooter, you find yourself wondering if he had had more love.

I know you wonder what would have happened if you could have talked to him.

- Yeah.

I wanted to, you know?

Again, you would like to talk.

I feel like that point passed when the man in the red Toyota tried to talk with him and say, "Hey, man, what are you doing?"

And he shot at him.

And I made my decision at that point that I could not talk with him.

I didn't have a chance.

There was no chance for me.

It was split second decisions while gunfire was going off, while children were losing their lives, that I had to make these decisions.

Yeah, but I do, I do want to believe that if he had more love in his life and better parenting, that this could have been prevented.

- How are you coping now?

You mentioned riding your dirt bikes.

- Yeah, the dirt bikes has been the biggest relief.

My family, my friends.

You know, I'm very fortunate with the friend group that I have.

I genuinely feel like nobody in the world has a friend group like I do.

I don't just have a best friend, I have dozens of best friends that have shown their support and their love.

The hugs from the community.

These are all the things that keep me going.

And then moving forward, I have goals moving forward that are driving me to be okay, to try and be coherent as much as possible.

Because moving forward, you know, I feel a higher calling to change this world.

I've always wanted to.

I've always wanted to change the world.

But I've felt small, you know?

I'm just a carpenter from Bend, Oregon, you know?

I was a nobody, other than to my friends and family who, you know, I was everybody.

I feel the serious need to be in the public and to raise awareness, to raise money for school security across the nation, starting with my hometown first.

These are the thoughts that help make me feel empowered.

I feel like if I'm going to have a voice, then I'll be damned if I'm gonna use it to change this world, to make it a better place.

And I feel like I have the support.

I feel like I have an army behind me to find the right resources and funding.

And I don't care if I have to fly around the nation and speak at schools or what, you know, I am ready to just be the positive light that I've been to my friends and family to the rest of the world, because I feel like I have a lot to offer.

- What would solutions look like for you as you take your steps towards this journey of advocating?

- Yeah, I mean, I think the first one, hearing that there's one SRO, one officer per seven schools, I- - It's a school resource officer.

- Yep.

And that's absurd to me.

I feel like there should be somebody at every school.

And I understand there's not funding that way.

And if there's not, I feel like there can be a private nonprofit organization built with veterans that are just sitting at home, maybe lonely, they're trained, they know how to take care of children.

And I believe that there's a way... That's gonna be the first step, is there should be somebody protecting these children at every school, every day.

I had heard in the conference that that officer reaches that school, like, maybe twice a week, each school, twice a week.

That's a lot of extra days for something bad to happen.

The other thing is funding for security.

Again, during this press conference, they had just spent so much money on locks on doors.

The doors are fully glass.

And again, you can put a million dollar lock on a door, if you make it out of glass, that's not ballistic.

I watched that man shoot right through it, no problem, and then I crawled right through it.

That's a big deal.

And I'm not saying that I want to make kids feel like they're going to school in a prison.

I think that proper funding can be secured to hide the security.

We can make it look good.

These children can go and they can be colorful, but there's security there that's behind it.

We have AI.

We are in a world of technology right now.

We have smart homes.

We have smart cars.

Why can't we have smart schools?

So again, there is so many outlets.

I don't know them all right now, and that's why I will be reaching out to any kind of resource, any kind of person that can guide me in the right direction, because this country needs it.

These schools need it.

Our children deserve to go to school and be happy and play with one another, and play with toys, and not have to worry about something like this coming in and the worst happening.

- And as you look for the next steps, I know over the last week, pretty much every media organization in the country, some beyond, have been trying to talk with you.

A lot of political groups, people with pretty clear ideologies and views about gun rights or school safety are beating down your door.

- Yeah.

- What do you make of that?

- Yeah.

You know, I struggle getting into any kind of politics.

In high school, I wasn't cliqued up.

I accept everybody.

I teach my children that we love, we accept everybody.

At this time, I don't want to make this a political situation, because my beliefs and views lie somewhere in the middle of the two, because there are good people on both sides, and I feel like we need the good people on both sides and we need them to work together.

Sitting here and pointing fingers at each other, I don't care how long you do it, you're never gonna get anything done.

And that's part of the problem.

And that's a little scary because, you know, being part of the independent class, I am fearful of backlash on both sides, but I just want those people to know that I love them all.

I love them both.

And we're on this boat that we call Earth.

We're all in here together.

This is Team Earth, Team Human, whatever you want to call it.

I don't think there needs to be a right or a left.

I think it needs to be an all of us.

- How do you think that this experience is going to change or has already changed your relationship with guns?

- I feel the need to educate people.

So, it's more dangerous to be afraid of a gun than it is to just be comfortable with one and know that they are there to either provide you food or to provide you protection.

It's not something to be waving around.

I intend to teach my daughters how to use a weapon.

I've trained my wife.

I bought her her first gun.

I plan to do more of that because I do think it's necessary.

Guns are not evil.

An inanimate object cannot cause any harm to anybody until somebody picks it up and has intent.

And so moving forward, I would like to just spread gun education, weapon safety, so that people know that, again, guns aren't the bad, the problem.

The guns aren't the problem.

The people are the problem.

Mental health is the problem.

Feeling isolated and alone and depressed is a problem for these people.

And I think that's gonna be the answer going forward.

I don't think banning guns is the answer, 'cause again, if I wasn't able to have a gun, I don't know how that day would have gone.

I already ignored gun laws, and that needed to happen.

So I think moving forward, I think there needs to be a little bit different take on firearms.

But they're meant to be stored safely.

You're not supposed to know that people have guns.

But if a perpetrator knows that someone around here has a gun, they're less likely to commit a crime, in my opinion.

- Do you think of yourself as a hero?

I know millions of people think of you as one.

- It's getting easier to view myself as a hero.

I want to be a hero in this world.

I have been in other areas of my life.

It feels like I was meant to be here and do this.

It's getting easier each day to kind of accept that.

But I can tell you that I do want to be a hero.

I want that to be my job.

I feel like I was put on this earth to do something more than just fix houses.

Maybe now I can fix the world.

- (sighs) I think I've run through my questions.

I would love to just sit for a minute and give you some time to process, and if there's anything you want to go back to or anything you want to add.

- There's one idea I have for raising money for security for schools, and I would like to reach out to my motocross family.

I have an idea of funding a race or creating a race that all of the proceeds, not just a percentage, but every single penny is donated to schools across America to put bulletproof glass on the doors, to put funding into better locks, into better research to make these kids feel safe at school.

And I think in the motocross community, we have a very tight-knit, loving community.

The sport is growing faster than it's ever grown, ever.

People are watching it more than ever.

And all these riders, they're good people.

You know, they have families.

There's already riders that do charity work.

I am just dying to get in touch with these guys and see how I can be of help, see what I can do for the cause.

- Have you been in touch with the families of the victims?

- Not of the victims, and I would really like to.

I went to Alpenglow Park.

It was my first day back out in the community.

And I got to speak with members of the community that I saved their children.

I had kids hugging me and, you know, thanking me for saving their lives.

And that was, you know, yeah, that was probably the first day that, you know, it's a lot.

I really did want to speak with the families and the victims and just cry with them and hold them.

I want to apologize for not saving their babies.

That's probably the biggest thing for me right now, because the gratitude for saving people's children is awesome, but there was ones that I didn't save, and that's probably the hardest thing for me right now.

And so yeah, there's a little bit of, like, fear of seeing these families, because I do feel like I failed them, but I do want to meet them.

- Well, thank you so much for speaking with us, Kaylub.

If there's anything else you want to add, we're happy to sit here for a minute.

I know this has been a lot to process.

- It's a lot.

I don't really think I have anything to add at this time.

I probably will have later.

Again, I feel like this is the first step in order for me to change the world, so there will be more for me.

I am gonna have a lot more.

I'm not done yet.

- Well, I admire you greatly, and I hope you take care of yourself while you're on this journey and give yourself some space, and that you find some healing.

- Thank you, thank you very much.

- Thank you so much for being here.

- Thank you.

I'm happy to be here.

I want people to know the truth in my story and not to get things twisted, because there's a lot of misinformation out there.

People just like to troll, and I feel like the world needed to hear me, and I feel like I'm not done speaking to the world.

- Thank you so much, sir.

- Absolutely.

- Okay.